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Pit obviously better than kitpvp? (don't move its an idea thread for kitpvp :VVVVV)

Discussion in 'KitBrawl' started by FearTheDoggos, Apr 8, 2018.

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Add a temporary item shop?

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  2. No, I posted my reasons below.

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  1. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    @Eil
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    RIP number 2 player <3
    LMFAOOOO
    I wonder who foxy_beast is :wink:))))))))))
    (*HINT: totally not me*)
    Well... at least kitpvp doesn't have a ****ing one tap glitch.
    Anyways, idea for kitpvp:
    add a shop with buyable temporary items.
    Examples:
    Speed 2 for 60 seconds: 100 tokens (stackable each time you purchase)
    Sharp V sword with 100 durability: 1000 tokens
    Add an enderchest for non kit items: unlocked at level 10 for 5000 tokens
    Add a command that allows moderators to give out tokens as rewards for winning mini-events that they are now able to host to help out and increase the economy.
    Please post any other ideas or suggestions related to this if you can, or let me know if you think its an awful idea.
    Just don't flame the **** out of me :v I'm actually trying to help xd
     
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  2. Carnotauros

    Carnotauros Raid's Mod & Assistant Media Manager

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    I tried the pit once and got bowspammed, but the shop made me want to play more but then I got 4v1ed and quit.

    I’d definitely like to see something similar be added to kit, +1
     
  3. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Yes, pit is actually known as the cancer cess pit. I lose about 3 full prot sets a day to hackers :V
     
  4. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    I've had some idea about temporary potion effect buying but only by increasing the current level of a potion effect by 1 for (x) amount of time. So if you're ninja you could increase your speed 2 to 3 for (x) period and so on with other potions effects, I'd also want to make sure these can not be spam bought so the use has a form of cooldown for (x) period of time before another's buyable use.
     
  5. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    I like the perks and what not, but they are a little too overpowered imo. Smaller, more basic perks would be better for us here imo and would fit our more pvp based community instead (even a tad more basic than the ones you suggested). Their system is definitely addictive though, so if we can create our own version of it I think it would benefit us. If we could make it sort of like how KOTHs are on raid, with that kid of mosh pit type of thing, it could be cool.
     
  6. MoistMayonnaise

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    There are events such as koth already. King of the hill and king of the ladder are both made and hosted by a staff member when they are on and if they choose to do it. When these are done there may be a small prize or just for a bit of fun for the players.
     
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    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    I'm more so referring to the action / fights that happen during the raid koths, not bringing in koths to kitpvp. If we can get the same quality there through perks or w/e, then I think it would be cool.
     
  8. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    If a upgrade system was added it would make it kinda unfair for people with a load of credits as they can buy the upgrades and basically dominate people with no credits
    If this was already said sorry I m not bothered reading the previous posts :smile:
     
  9. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Brawl is the most P2W server in existence. Since when did they start caring about long time players being "unfair" ?

    The point is that it would be fun af to people who start playing, but not only that, it gives them a reason to play. Right now, they literally have no reason to KEEP playing other than to test out hacks.
     
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    Redorian Well-Known Member

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  11. JayOG

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    That is your view on it, but Kit Pvp isn't "P2W" and we also have a community here. People don't just play to "test out hacks", if anything people who do test out those hacks are hated by the community and people can easily tell as well. I been in this community for 2 years now and I know about Kit. Yeah some of these events would be cool, but using those credits I have stocked up (100k) on my other accounts, would be a severe disadvantage to the other newer players. I'd rather be down for the potion events to be removed, and a 1v1 mini tournament to be added every 3 hours, a KOTH once a day, a SUMO event. All automated.
     
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  12. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    I've had had all these wrote down in a document and a bunch of other things I want to discuss between staff and some maybe community votes, Ive got a bunch of ideas but I always come up with one after the other causing endless amounts o fun typing.
     
  13. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Oh , riiiiiight.... Because giving every single kit to anyone who buys elite is NOT p2w...
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    Ur kidding right?
    :/
     
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  14. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Global JMod

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    Elites do not have access to every kit actually. That is Hg not Kitbrawl
     
  15. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    Anyways, regarding your concerns about the way that it would affect the community and having a broken economy @JayOG , there would obviously be a more appropriate system of earning credits. They would pretty much have to change out the entire idea of credits and make it much easier to earn credits. Along with this there would obviously need to be a reset. I don't think there has been a reset in years. Would do some good.
    When I was staff I had access to every kit. I dunno :V Maybe its just a staff thing, one way or another, that's not exactly fair to the community.

    and I am quite sure whatever elite DOES gives, considering its on Brawl, will be p2w.
     
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  16. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Global JMod

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    Elite is able to use their credits to get little things such as, kill effects and death effects. The hologram and launch are the kill effects and blood/gore or dead body for death effects. There is also the Heart trail when on a kill streak. I don't see how that is p2w at all.

    Also your saying there hasn't been a reset in years is false. There was one last year over the summer.
     
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  17. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    :kappa: a reset 9 months ago. No point in picking apart my wording apart. Anyways, idek why you guys are defending kitpvp from being p2w. I never even said it was. Jay was just randomly spewing **** to defend something without even looking at what I said.
    "Brawl is the most P2W server in existence. Since when did they start caring about long time players being "unfair" ?"
    Never said anything specifically against kitpvp.
    But I love how you are all ignoring my suggestions and just picking apart irrelevant information.

    Typical brawl. Ignores the actual issues and suggestions in order to pick on and pick apart stupid and irrelevant things
     
  18. JayOG

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    lol just how you say people only come here to test out hacks, thats your words, you don't know this community well if you seriously think thats the only reason they "stay", brawl isn't entirely pay2win either, some parts possibly yeah, others not. In Kit as well, nothing to do with pay2win. You get credits, you buy kits. Not to mention the best kit is the default kit. Can kill anything if you know how to swing a sword, also you said Brawl as a whole, Kit is part of Brawl, hence the "Kit isn't p2w" lol ok bud :grinning:
     
  19. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    Pay to win isn't anything of KitBrawl as anything that actually has an effect on the game is still earnable by staying active. I feel that if it's bothering someone as a "pay to win" motion to the point they feel the need to complain, they'd be caring enough for the server to stay active for like 1 month to unlock every Kit on there.

    You've also contradicted yourself at least 3 times if you re-read what you have said.

    Anyways stay on the topic of the thread in a friendly manor for discussion and keep away from being argumentative and flaming or else I'm locking the thread.
     
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  20. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans and Appeals, Hack Test and Brawl News Manager

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    One of the main issues with Pit is people getting overpowered gear making it very difficult to kill them. If someone has prestiged a few times and has the 4th perk slot, overheal, then buys full diamond (even without prot) then you have to be very bad to die to someone who hasn't prestiged yet. If I recall correctly, the pinned guide for The Pit quite literally says that it's "impossible" to die in 1v1 when you have 4 gheads. I don't want to see KitPvP turn into this.

    Speed II is very powerful against people with just speed I or no speed at all. I'm not wholly against it but it should be a lot more expensive.

    A sharp V sword would be too powerful for any amount of credits. This combined with strength II from a potion drop could nearly 1 shot someone.

    If we do add custom items then yes, enderchests should probably be added. However, I think it'd be better off making them available to everyone. On The Pit, you unlock it very quickly.

    If tokens are given more of a use, definitely.

    I'm not completely against adding custom items but we'd need to do it right. KitPvP and The Pit are both "persistent combat games" but that doesn't mean they should both have the same features. I'm all for adding more features to KitPvP but if we're going to try and make a gamemode similar to The Pit then it'd be very difficult to compete with Hypixel.
     
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