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Updating the Arresting system in a bandits favour

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by Tjocko, Jul 13, 2017.

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Should this be reality?

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  1. Tjocko

    Tjocko Wild West Ex-MOD

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    No long thread here

    One annoying thing bandits hate, is a sheriff, who runs into theyr team and quickly cuff one player, inspects them, and then tickets them. Ofcourse, Sheriffs are outnumbered, so the rank has to stay good, but there is a problem. When ticketing someone, you click on e, and boom. The screen appears instantly, as I see it, Sheriffs should get a "Writing-the-ticket-bar" as I like to call it, this bar can be cancelled if you take your little cross off the player's hitbox, by taking damage or dying.

    How is this in favour for bandits? Your illegal items are lost, but you might have a chance to keep the rest incase you have a teamate .

    The time ticketing would take can be dissgussed.

    Oh, it got quite long after all.
     
  2. TwisterPvP

    TwisterPvP Ex-Party Mod / Squirtle

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    I feel like this would benefit the bandits a little too much. If there is 2 bandits, then there is a very high chance that when trying to ticket one of them, the other one will just come and attack. If they aren't KOS, the only option is to cuff and ticket, so I believe it would be too tough for sheriffs if there is a timer.
     
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  3. Tjocko

    Tjocko Wild West Ex-MOD

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    I agree on this, but I chose the ticket, cause when trying to ticket someone, you've already taken their illgals, which means they've got weak, and since we can come back at any time, the chance of winning is still big. the idea was made to lower the annoying part of the game, in which lowers flaming aswell. This idea simply has it's pros and cons.
     
  4. TwisterPvP

    TwisterPvP Ex-Party Mod / Squirtle

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    I agree, the idea has pros and cons. +0 I guess.
     
  5. 999p99

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    -1 sheriff would be a sitting duck with this idea. It's been proposed before and simply just isn't viable.
     
  6. Chilled_67

    Chilled_67 Lizard

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    I have to agree with both of them, -1
     
  7. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ex-Mod | Writer | WildWest

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    - The bandit still has to rebuy firearms, and possibly reharvest/reprocess drugs, all the while having an elevated bounty.

    - Sheriffs would really have nothing so lose (except for Kevlar, but who the f*ck buys that. Pots too maybe, but those should only be bought during wars).

    - Sheriff can /team deposit the money from inspecting.

    - Sheriff gets free gear so dying is no problem (No matter how you try to counter-argue the fact, it's plain ad simple. Sheriffs get free gear that match a geared bandit with the exception of potions and some munitions. Get over it.)

    So why shouldn't this be added?
     
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  8. TwisterPvP

    TwisterPvP Ex-Party Mod / Squirtle

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    Sheriffs aren't designed to be disposable. I don't think saying sheriffs get free gear is a viable reason why they should be heavily weakened.
     
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  9. 999p99

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    Because if you have to stare at someone for an extended period of time to ticket them and you have a team mate then it would take a grand total of half a second for that team mate to blow the sheriff's head off with a sawed off because they're a sitting duck.

    Yes, sheriff cuffing is a problem, but this is a bad solution to it. @Hitchens proposed a good, although incomplete, solution, on his thread about making rogues KOS.
     
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  10. Tjocko

    Tjocko Wild West Ex-MOD

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    What if the time is obly 1.5 seconds?
     
  11. 999p99

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    If I was the bandit's team mate then half a second is all I would need to blow the sheriff's head off with a sawed off.
     
  12. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ex-Mod | Writer | WildWest

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    Sure, they're sitting ducks. Your point? The sheriff put themselves in that situation, the bandits shouldn't have to pay for that. The player playing as a sheriff should clear the rest of the building before even inspecting. It's common sense. Same in an engagement. If you get the lucky cuff on someone, if you don't want to get ambushed, you deal with whoever else is trying to defend their teammates. It's all strategy. You shouldn't change the way the game is played because people aren't playing the right strategy, tactics, or playstyle.
    I know and do agree that they aren't designed to be disposable. Much the opposite. Regardless of whether they should get free gear or not, the idea of free gear upon respawn was flawed to begin with (quoting @TheMafias.)

    Now, I wasn't implying that, “Hey, those guys get free gear. **** them, I'm going to spam the forums and chat with anti-sheriff rage and how they should be nerfed." I was implying that sheriffs shouldn't worry about dying. No, that does not mean that you are required to either play like a regular player, or **** all. This means that sheriffs do get free gear, therefore, they aren't as limited in regular players in options.
     
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  13. Tjocko

    Tjocko Wild West Ex-MOD

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    Not if he strafes around his victim.
     
  14. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ex-Mod | Writer | WildWest

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    Is strafing an enemy to cuff them when the person could just as easily punch them and engage the combat tag on the sheriff really a realistic concept?
     
  15. Tjocko

    Tjocko Wild West Ex-MOD

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    It was made as an argument against this:
    Just give me a night and I will find out an argument against that aswell.
     
  16. MercE_

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    Keep legals on death
     
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  17. Tjocko

    Tjocko Wild West Ex-MOD

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    It really brings teats to my eyes, tears of happiness. This has not done before in a long time: Bandits defending the Sheriff rank.
     
  18. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ex-Mod | Writer | WildWest

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    I've defended the sheriff rank plenty of times as a bandit before so...
     
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  19. MercE_

    MercE_ Active Member

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    ^
     
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  20. Droiid

    Droiid Shutdown

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    If an idea has enough pros and cons to be a "+0", especially from my boy Twister; I don't think it should be implemented. If you can fix some of the cons to balance it out more, I'd for sure give my +1.

    +0 for now, but I'm willing to change upon further updates.
     
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