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Are mages too Overpowered?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by StormNox, Jul 16, 2017.

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  1. StormNox

    StormNox Active Member

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    Hi, i met a mage called thedavidwu who spams snowballs really really fast. Is there a way to counter mages?
     
  2. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    Yes, ninja and assassin are great counters to mage. Well, if you can dodge the spam, anything can beat mage. So I guess it really depends on you :wink:
     
  3. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    ban thedavidwu
     
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  4. StormNox

    StormNox Active Member

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    spamming attacks is allowed apprarently.
     
  5. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    Yes
     
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  6. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    Mages are bad unless it's freeday Friday. Then you have five of them lining up to take a shot at you.
     
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  7. CastleBravo1954

    CastleBravo1954 Well-Known Member

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    "spamming" is not a bad thing. That's the mage's only weapon thats effective. And plus i dont know how you can spam the freeze spell like it has a pretty long cooldown time so maybe he was doing something shady. And plus many people say that mage is easy and stuff like that but i disagree. Mage is easy to abuse but its hard to play it in a way that benefits the entire team and not the person.
     
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  8. Claod

    Claod Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I played mage for a few hours and even if you land every single damage spell, fire spell, and do everything perfectly, you still end up with less kills then a decent heavy, archer, chemist, or pyro. I feel like mage seems overpowered in that it can win 1v1s and can sustain itself forever with infinite health, but when you look at it through the mage's eyes, you'll realize that it takes much more time to kill an enemy or that mages can get killed really quickly if caught off-guard.
     
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  9. BrandinoB

    BrandinoB Well-Known Member

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    Mage is kind of a 1-dimensional class. The only thing it's extremely good at is 1v1's, which CTF is not based around. It can defend and recover decently, but it's really dependent on the mage and the situation/map. I would argue that engineer is much worse (slight bias) since it can have a direct impact on the game
     
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  10. Rejeqted

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    Its good to annoy offense with freezing/lightning. Plus u can annoy archers very easily.
    Necro is a good counter to it since spells dont effect necro mobs
     
  11. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    Necro would be a more effective counter to mage, if the mobs did decent damage. When I play mage, I never find myself worrying about meeting a necro.

    Imo ninja is a pretty good counter to mage. Ninjas can catch mages off guard, and can kill them quickly. However if there is a skilled mage, then the effectiveness of ninja goes way down.
     
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    Ye but assassin is good also cause mages cant block but u can use lightning to counter them
     
  13. Soundkld

    Soundkld b1.mcctf.com

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    How to counter mage: Strafe to the left, strafe to the right, criss cross, criss cross...
    Really though, unless they are mad skilled, dodge and weave until you get close enough to attack them. If you are in a tight area you stand no chance.

    Like @DaddySloth said assassin is a good counter because mage can't block.
     
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  14. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    *Mage uses lightning spell*
    ****! Time to start over I guess..
     
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  15. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    You can also boost the enemy towards you which ruins the Mage's day.
     
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  16. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    The problem with lightning spell is your praying to RNJesus for it not to instead launch the opponent towards you or sometimes not even move them at all, which is a death sentence if your using the lightning spell the correct way (knock enemies back)
     
  17. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    How overpowered lightning is is just insane. I played Mage for 10 minutes lifetime before yesterday, when I played it for a couple minutes again because I was bored. I went 7-1, thought not against good players. Every time I used the lightning against any class including ninja, it knocked them back. It's super easy to use and knocking them forwards is uncommon. Either way, you can use your heal to recover considering the short recharge time.
     
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    Imo, remove kb entirely from all the spells except lighting. Similar to turret arrows.
     
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  19. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    I'd say keep it on the Flame. It's no big deal.
     
  20. Freedom_35

    Freedom_35 Well-Known Member

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    I'm just giving my opinion, I think some mage aspects are indeed a little overpowered.
    A: The endless heal? I think this is a little ridiculous, I think 5 heals would be plenty.
    B: the damage spell is a little too frequent. I'd say maybe add half a second or a full second for the hotbar.
    These are my opinions, anyway. Feel free to differ. The rest of mage is fine imo.
     
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