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Discussion in 'Discussion' started by xGhale, Apr 19, 2018.

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  1. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    According to Avast's recent (and very interesting report) on Minecraft PC Edition skin viruses (yes, that is a thing), which can be found here, Minecraft PC has over 74 million players and a 20 million increase per year.
    What's gone wrong with Brawl?
    Let's run this down.
    Brawl offers:
    1. 2 Battle Royale gamemodes - 1) the actual Battle Royale, which is extremely well coded and has some really cool mechanics such as useable vehicles
    2. 2) HG - which is the original Battle Royale, if you think about it. H1Z1 King of the Hill was based on this, PUBG was based on H1Z1, and Fortnite is a child-friendly clone of PUBG.
    Conclusion: Brawl has the 2 most similar gamemodes to the most popular games around at the moment.

    Brawl also offers:

    • WarZ - which is a child-friendly version of the immensely popular Arma mod DayZ.
    • War - another child-friendly version of the classic shooter games - CoD Modern Warfare (series) and Battlefield 3/4. I chose those 2 game series because they are the best of the modern tactical shooters that don't contain some of that crazy newfangled stuff like exo-suits.
    • Build - a place of peace for everyone to just do what Minecraft was originally meant for - building stuff.
    • CTF - while this gamemode hasn't really got any contemporary counterparts (if I missed one please tell me, I'll add it here), this is a classic school-yard game, and as always it is child-friendly.
    • Wild West - Red Dead Redemption for kids, right?
    • Raid - no equivalent as far as I know.

    So Brawl offers quite a few variants of the most popular games around.
    What does it not offer?
    1. A huge open-map style gamemode modeled along the likes of FPS games such as Far Cry 3,4, and 5
    2. A WWI/WWII gamemode (which I can understand since they are very controversial conflicts to discuss and implement - Battlefield 1 did it with a very clear anti-war message, I'm not sure how well a Minecraft version would fare)
    3. Racing (outside of the Horse Race on Party)
    Why is Brawl not as popular as it should be?
    Surely it isn't all down to the MCPvP merge, right?

    What do you guys think needs to be changed?
     
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  2. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman
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    child friendly :thinking:
     
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  3. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    No real gore, none of the brutality that DayZ has xd
     
  4. NickManEA

    NickManEA Build JMOD

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    I think he means the community which at times can be very toxic, however that’s not that game whatsoever. It’s just the community
     
  5. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman
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    i was just meming :no_mouth:
     
  6. Charlie_0014

    Charlie_0014 In-game Support

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    Raid has the classics of Minecraft, survival and PvP.
     
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  7. Droiid

    Droiid Shutdown

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    It also has some aspects of games like rust imo
     
  8. JayOG

    JayOG Ex-wArZ MoD (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    fortnite... child-friendly...? Cartoons don't equal childfriendly
     
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  9. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    One does not just simply call me Jack Sparrow without first saying Captain
     
  10. enderdragon3615

    enderdragon3615 Well-Known Member

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    People won't play on Brawl unless they A. Know that Brawl exists B. All of their favorite mini-game servers die. Players tend to be more loyal to the first few quality (I use the term loosely) servers that they play on, so Brawl just needs to find a way to push itself past all of the irritating servers.

    Perhaps it would be useful to compile a list of "Why Brawl" reasons (A list of reasons why Brawl is superior or offers more than other servers), and if you can't come up with a list of reasons why Brawl is better than these other servers then Brawl is not better, and players will not be inclined to join.
     
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  11. Admiral_Munson

    Admiral_Munson Dank Memer

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    agree
     
  12. Redorian

    Redorian Well-Known Member

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    What interests me more is how enderdragon's text is F*CKING GREEN??
     
  13. enderdragon3615

    enderdragon3615 Well-Known Member

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    I thought it would help stand out among all of the useless posts :>
     
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  14. Theo92160_

    Theo92160_ Worldedit's axe > Guns > Swords

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    Small correction, but it's (I believe) 74 million people playing Minecraft monthly on every platform, not only Java! Java edition was sold for (rough estimation) 25 million copies...
     
  15. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    We're too old fashioned imo. Our gamemodes haven't really changed enough to fit how MC has changed, and the good ideas had are usually wayyy too late (slither, BR). Modern changes can be made to the existing servers to bring them close up to speed, but a total server wide revamp should be done imo to appeal to the increasing younger players of MC.
     
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  16. DeadRhos

    DeadRhos Blips, Drips And Strips

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    There's a few reasons, mainly boiling down to lower player attention spans. Build and Party thrive because there's no commitment required, whereas most of the other servers consist of players who've been around for years, and who will eventually leave.

    My personal solution would be to invest in more low-commitment gamemodes, and to let the older ones die naturally. Mariokart, Roleplay servers, Paintball, Trouble in Terrorist Town: they're all examples of games that could work really well, even with low player counts.

    We don't have many players, so making gamemodes that require lots of players clearly won't work.

    (Also, CTF is based on TF2).
     
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  17. 19kss

    19kss 18kss

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    brawl should just have a "play2earn" system lol
     
  18. Gohabsgo

    Gohabsgo Well-Known Member

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    If I wasn't already a brawl player( using very loosely, hardly ever play) there would be no way I would start playing on the network, people like to play on servers that are heavily populated and Brawl doesn't offer anything that bigger servers don't.
     
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