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Discussion in 'Raid' started by marcthistle, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. marcthistle

    marcthistle Banned

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    I miss the old brawl. I still get feels for that whenever I think about it. Why can’t the staff just make everything back to the old Survival pvp. I think it will get a lot more players back.

    Pce-666
     
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  2. SoCool21

    SoCool21 7 Year McPvPer

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    What specifically do you want to see changed?
     
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  3. Twhat

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    Change to 1.7
     
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    Agree
     
  5. AirstrikeXD

    AirstrikeXD Active Member

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    Regarding that, In my opinion if you really want 1.7 you should do 2 servers of Raid one can be Hardcore/1.7 and the other can be Normal/casual/1.8. If Raid gets changed back to 1.7 I agree a lot of people we probably like it but a lot of people won’t mainly because they aren’t used to it, A lot of things come easier today when back then gathering materials ores etc. Was quite the time consuming thing. And I just don’t think all players would want to adapt and perhaps consider even quiting the server because of this.
     
  6. Colonel_Graff

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    Personally I’d like to have a 1.13 (ish) server with The End the size of the Nether (yes, endbasing and elytra should be a thing) but retain the 1.8 combat. We’re on a 5 year old version of Minecraft and it shows. I understand that everyone prefers 1.8 combat but there’s a lot of features we’re missing out on by using an old version of Minecraft.
     
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  7. Twhat

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    1.8.9 is last good minecraft version and If server changed to 1.9+ i would quit instantly

    This gamemode was made for hardcore. To make it easier it just isn't fun anymore.
     
  8. Colonel_Graff

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    “1.8.9 is last good minecraft version” which is why I said retain the 1.8 combat mechanics.

    What else is bad after 1.8.9? The meta would change with totems and end crystal fights, I get that, but the elytra, shulker boxes and observer blocks are worth it. Also gaps would become rare...
     
  9. SoCool21

    SoCool21 7 Year McPvPer

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    Easier said than done. It is very easy to get rid of the attack cooldowns and we can get blocking working like normal very easily (it just won't have any visual cues that someone's blocking), but in 1.9 there's hitbox changes, and in later versions knockback and range is calculated differently. It is possible to simulate 1.8.9 PvP in 1.14.2, but it would be difficult to do accurately. We already simulate 1.7.10 PvP on Brawl and it isn't perfect, and the change between 1.14.2 and 1.8.9 is much bigger.

    There would also need to be some other changes added so the meta doesn't change too much. End crystal PvP honestly doesn't appeal much to me and I think it would change the meta way too much. Due to soup, totems won't be very useful (especially given how rare they are - they're not renewable, so there'd be as many totems as there would be woodland mansions), but this could easily be fixed by buffing them or adding totems as KOTH rewards.

    You'd also be able to kite a lot easier with elytras and fireworks, which would not be ideal. Bows and levitation arrows would also let people kite fairly easily. Enchanted golden apples are no longer renewable. Chorus fruits would allow you to find bases much, much more easily. Ravagers are very difficult to fight without shields (which would most likely be removed to replicate 1.8.9 combat), and this could be abused in fights. Phantoms would make surviving the night a lot more difficult for new players with low armour, especially since they won't be able to sleep and skip the night, so phantoms will always be spawning at night. As far as I can tell, these are all the non-combat related changes which would have to be mitigated.

    Then there's also the 2 unavoidable disadvantages of upgrading to 1.14.2 - people who play 1.8.9 servers will have to change versions to play on our server, and our current players would have to adapt to 6 major updates all at once. The difference between 1.8.9 and 1.14.2 is the same as the difference between 1.8.9 and 1.2.5, which is huge.
     
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  10. GalaThundR

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    it's almost like refusing to update for 3 years is a bad idea.
    not aimed directly at brawl but for all of java mc
     
  11. SoCool21

    SoCool21 7 Year McPvPer

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    To be fair, it's not the community's fault that Mojang messed up the combat update. They've already confirmed that an upcoming version is going to be reworking the combat, and it's the only time ever Mojang has had to rework an update like this. They haven't had to completely scratch the Nether and start again because the Nether updates were bad, and they haven't had to completely scratch Oceans and start again because the Aquatic Update was bad - the new combat update will be the very first time they've ever had to rework things added in full releases of the game.
     
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  12. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Raid Jmod | Team Manta

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    I would resign and then quit if the server changed to anything that is above 1.8.9 (+) I just don't see it working in my opinion. There would be too much to do and too many things that could have a negative imapct
     
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    #12 CoCaptainBlue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:28 PM
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  13. Skiyyyyap

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    Suddenly I am really hoping that they change to anything after 1.8.9
     
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  14. AirstrikeXD

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    LOOOOOL omg your too funny
     
  15. BrosBeforeHoes_

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    I would like to see 1.8 enchanting. Old maps (new ones occasionally, reduce the price of voting tokens for gold. add maybe some More boosters, and kits such as a farmer which includes:
    5 carrots, cocoa beans, and potatoes
    10 melons
    32 bone meal
    20 dirt blocks
    2 stone hoes with 1 iron shovel
    Day wait
    Maybe a kit that includes:
    10 coal
    64 cobblestone
    32 stone.
    Hour wait.
    Food kit
    4 steaks
    3 cooked chicken
    8 cooked potatoes.
    2 hour wait .
    again those are a couple of my suggestions for raid.
     
  16. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Raid Jmod | Team Manta

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    Don't you think that woudl take away part of the survival feeling?
     
  17. BrosBeforeHoes_

    BrosBeforeHoes_ Well-Known Member

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    Well yall seem to have already did with the kits so why not
     
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  18. Tuumai

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    everything, just like he said old survival pvp. Just change it to spvp and more popular server
     
  19. lebronjames0

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    change server name
    Raid → survival pvp
     
  20. SoCool21

    SoCool21 7 Year McPvPer

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    Why is the name so important to you?
     
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