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Shutdown WarZ 2.0

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by JayOG, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. JayOG

    JayOG Ex-wArZ MoD (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Hey,

    Some of you guys already know me, and I'll just get right to the point. Shutting down WarZ 2.0 (Which is a failed game, take this coming from someone who worked on it) and bringing back Wild West. I know, I know, bringing stuff back isn't the obvious choice BUT the WarZ community has completely dispersed into existence and reviving it would take a long time. The Wild West community still lurks around and is patient enough to wait. Besides that, Wild West is completely monetisable in various different ways. There are so many reworks to it that could be done to get the game to a good state. I don't know the game well enough to offer up any ideas on doing it, but I'm writting this since it's better to start a conversation going than to let it go without say. Something needs to be done and this should easily be a priority. The resources are available and so is the code.


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  2. Sn4x5

    Sn4x5 Ex WarZ Mod

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    Yes pls
     
  3. Celezian

    Celezian Well-Known Member

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    It just works
     
  4. Gehenna_Beam

    Gehenna_Beam Wizard of Misery

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    Hmm... Seems controversial, but it can only be controversial if some people react to it negatively. Now, is there anyone here who will do that? Anyone?
     
  5. Admiral_Munson

    Admiral_Munson Dank Memer

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    All removing ww did was piss off the dedicated community who played it because huh, suddenly the game mode you invested a lot of time in isn't there anymore. Brilliant!

    Meanwhile warz has been dead for 3ish years after yall spent a similar period of time working on it. Literally can't get staff for it either because everyone who isn't @tchuckraider is toxic, a troll, or is banned for hacks/ddos

    Bring back wild west
     
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  6. JayOG

    JayOG Ex-wArZ MoD (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Only controversial thing about the whole change was actually going through with it, it was a big piss off to a whole community on our network that was loyal and played. Yes it had its down times but overall, it has one of the highest potentials on Brawl.
     
  7. tchuckraider

    tchuckraider Brawler

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    Nah, I'm toxic dude.
     
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  8. Gehenna_Beam

    Gehenna_Beam Wizard of Misery

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    There's @Yupper.
     
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  9. Yupper

    Yupper The limegreen Yupper! <3

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    Totally bring back wild West, but maybe just keep 1 of the warz servers open, the old map or new dosnt matter.
     
  10. Gehenna_Beam

    Gehenna_Beam Wizard of Misery

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    Of course. We're talking about shutting down 2.0, not 1.0. I've noticed more players play WarZ 1.0 than 2.0, which is rather sad.
     
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  11. AmbitionZ_

    AmbitionZ_ Highly Established Member

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    • I agree to bring wild west back, but I don't think I'd be willing to spend any money on it anymore and I don't think I'm the only person who feels the same way.
    • WarZ 2.0 never really had any traction in the first place (from my knowledge if I'm wrong sorry) and I remember when it first came out there was actually some sort of push to get it reverted back to wild west and WarZ.
    • I'm not the only one who will say this but Wild West also does need some changes when it comes out to keep the game more stable as it was in a weird state when it was removed. Wild West would be good for monetization as well since people would be willing to by ranks and considering brawl lost a major income source as one of brawls best sources of income was WarZ before everyone quit.
    • My biggest issue with Wild West is the player retention has always been poor and ways to bring that up while still keeping the game close enough to the original that the people who used to play it would still come back and enjoy the game. Gamemodes like wild west and WarZ need to be a lot more straightforward at the start or no new players are going to stay. If Brawl wants to make any sort of push to get new players now would be a good time as minecraft has been on the rise recently in popularity and actually on google trends (obviously not always the most accurate but can give pretty good estimates) has been at it's highest point since late december 2016. (Holiday season could have even caused an influx of searches due to people getting minecraft as a gift and parents or people searching how to purchase it.)
    • Some ideas to help make wild west more friendly towards new players -
      • Fix the sherrif system - Sheriffs were a huge issue to new players in Wild West. Sheriffs would always have the gear to kill new players in a fight or the noob would have tons of drugs, get cuffed inspected and sent to jail with a giant bounty to mine off while the sheriff walks away with a chunk of change. Nobody who just started will be dedicated enough to mine that off, they'll just leave and move on. Either sheriffs need to be reworked completely or they just need to be outright removed.
    • For someone who starts, the game is extremely confusing. I was pretty much taught how to do everything by a friend and a lot of people probably didn't entirely figure out the game on their own. There needs to be a really efficient, semi thorough tutorial that explains stuff as well as possible while not making it so long people won't just sit through it. I think the best way would be in the way of like a guide book that is a part of the compass menu or something to help players who are new and is opened upon first logging into the game.
      • Make the game less P2W - Look, I get it, brawl needs to make money somehow. But wild west is too pay to win for new players to stay. Make it easier to get around the map, maybe give 1 teleport every 2 hours to no ranks and make the starting pony a little faster, make processing speed more based off the skill than rank, etc etc. The game was so much easier with a rank and it even had me buying elite on WW. That can make a lot of money when you have a large dedicated playerbase, but unfortunately Wild West doesn't really have that right now. A lot of the experienced players from before probably won't come back (obviously some will but other's won't) and brawl can't be living off the thread that is people who are just willing to come back. They need new players, new people willing to get involved in the community. New people that won't just die and quit never to play again.
    • TL;DR WarZ 2.0 was never very popular, wild west needs some changes before being rereleased to help solve some of it's problems and if done right can help brawl with monetization. Minecraft is steadily regaining popularity and so if Brawl wants to make a big push they should do it soon but Wild west needs some changes to help players actually continue to play it.
    • Did I forget to mention I agree that it should be removed?
     
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  12. tchuckraider

    tchuckraider Brawler

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    It does matter. You need an old map and a new map to attract any old players and new players. Misunderstanding the thread aside, this is the exact opposite the community wants to see in a potential moderator. As a member of the staff team, you should fight for the betterment of your gamemode, not the destruction of it. Bring Wildwest back tho
     
  13. AmbitionZ_

    AmbitionZ_ Highly Established Member

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    I agree, keep at least the 2 servers up, 1 for old map 1 for new map.
     
  14. Yupper

    Yupper The limegreen Yupper! <3

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    I like warz, but there is more there like wild west than warz, so they should open wild west again, its nothing about fighting for the server?
     
  15. Carsonn

    Carsonn Mostly decent crafter, in general

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    Literally replacing the warz 2.0 server with wildwest would fix the most immediate issue. Then more focus can be applied to the wildwest server since it would be receiving more feedback from players joining, and things like @AmbitionZ_ 's list could actually be carried out :open_mouth:
     
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  16. JayOG

    JayOG Ex-wArZ MoD (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    A spawn where all new players would be tp'd in, they are guided through the game and explained how to play it. I like everything you said, and I surely agree with the TP timer for everyone. I was always big on giving everyone more equal perms when I was mod on WarZ. That's why everyone has a TP timer now but the time was more influenced by admin decision rather than mine. I just presented it and tweaked it to a liking but I know that if you want to keep players that are now joining, you'd have to let them get way more than they do now. I was also thinking about a rework for Wild West would also help it come back into the light if it were to come back. The code for it is very sloppy according to the people who coded it but is very fixable and can be tweaked. Now all it takes is for more people to come out the shadows and suggest more ideas like you did, easy revive and even better, more ideas to attract players and keep them which should be the main goal of all this.
     
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  17. tchuckraider

    tchuckraider Brawler

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    By saying that only one map (2 or 3) would be sufficient is basically saying you don't care about the community, nor the gamemode.
     
  18. Yupper

    Yupper The limegreen Yupper! <3

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    Its better with 2 warz servers than 10? there is not enough players for 10 servers, if warz gets filled with players one day they could add more server. Its just what i think :smile:

    I think they should open wild west again totally! But still keep the warz 1.0 on atleast 1 server.
     
  19. JayOG

    JayOG Ex-wArZ MoD (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    No one suggested moving any WarZ 1.0 servers. It's fine how it is.
     
  20. tchuckraider

    tchuckraider Brawler

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    No one is suggesting adding more servers, but having one of each map is as bare bones as you are going to get without decimating the server, the fact that you believe only having one of the maps left standing is enough should disqualify you as a potential moderator.
     
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