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Petition to alter Medic Achievement from 100k healing

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by LeUniCow, Sep 28, 2019.

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Alter medic's 100k and 200k healing achievements?

  1. Yes :)

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    48.8%
  2. Also yes :)

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    2.4%
  3. Yes.. you really don't get a choice

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%
  4. No

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    34.1%
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  1. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Active Member

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    100k and 200k healing is an absurd amount of healing to get, especially in comparison with the other class' achievements, making completing all medic achievements near impossible to complete if you have a life, and even if you don't no one would ever want to play medic again after all that healing.

    Change it to 50k
    or something completely different like restoring every class with the flag.




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  2. PowerMoves

    PowerMoves New Member

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    Disagree, 100k and 200k healing make the game a more long lasting thing. Plus in 1 ppm I made 17% of the 10k medic healing. I'd rather have larger achievements so I have something to do so it doesn't get boring. I do understand I'll have a lot of work to do for all classes. But with a larger achievement scale it encourages for you to play the class more
     
  3. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Active Member

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    17% is not very much. It takes over 5mins to FARM 1k healing (when someone’s constantly losing health for 5 mins). Getting 100k or 200k playing normally would literally take months. The top medic mains have 1.5m-2m healing overall after 4 years. If u do the maths that’s quite a long time. 50k is a large achievement and seems adequate enough
     
  4. maniwo

    maniwo Member

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    To throw my hat into the ring:
    Even I have 106k restorment in a playtime of around 2 1/2 days, and medic was my first class back in mcpvp times. Yeah, that sounds quite a long time; but those 1 1/2 years I was playing in the good old days I didnt really know what I should do. You can count a playtime of almost 2 days for my "real playing" of that class, for 100k.

    And when youre playing 1 hour a day for around 1 1/2 months and being more or less a "normal" graded medic, you get your 100k quite fast. Does it really make fun, when youre done with the achievments in less than a month?

    What could be discussable: That the achievments werent transferred, i think.
     
  5. Slingeh

    Slingeh Tik Tok Famous

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    If I didn't get the Elf tag for suggesting class specific tags then why should it become easier for Medic mains? No. Just no. Sorry.
     
  6. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Active Member

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    Can I just reiterate, I only suggested this change so that getting the medic achievements are on the same difficulty level as all the other class achievements. Getting 200k healing takes much much longer than getting 100k damage (one of heavy’s achieves). I’m not trying to make medic easier than the other class’ achieves, I’m trying to get it to the same difficulty as the others.


    Also I’m pretty sure class specific tags were being worked on wayyyy before you posted ur thread about it
     
  7. Spades_

    Spades_ Least-Known-Well-Known Member

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    It doesn’t seem like a huge deal, Idek what the achievements are, but you make a good point. 100k - 200k is probably too much, but I think it was made that way so only the best medic players would ever reach that achievement. Kinda like how only idiots and admins would have the hacker tag. (Bc it costs $50)
     
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  8. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Active Member

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    Fair point but then the other classes should have the same difficulty of achievement.
     
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  9. Northernlreland

    Northernlreland Active Member

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    I agree, all other classes should have the same diffuclty. However, the medic healing change that you're proposing should not happen.
    These achievements should aim to be completed over a two-three week period, and afterall they should be hard to obtain and they should be something individuals look forward to completing.
    Making these achievements shorter means they will have less effect, and less satisfaction on completion.
     
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  10. Ninsanity

    Ninsanity Yoshi Legend and Medic Main

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    It comes down to how long you want an achievement to take to accomplish. If you look at the most active medic players, like Larh, puhdgy, vn2004, who has played mostly medic for 4 years, they average about 2 million hearts healed. That averages to about 42k hearts a month. So that 200k hearts healed achievement would take them almost 5 months to get. And note that's the most active healing based medics in the game. I myself have a different playstyle, and so I have 385k hearts healed after 4 years. So it would take me personally 2 years to get that achievement. Other noteable players are:
    - Ducksfan101: 326k hearts healed
    - LeUniCow: 435k hearts healed
    - xAsh: 140k hearts healed
    And (most) of all these players have been actively playing or even maining medic for 4 years. So considering that most of the regulars wouldn't even have 50k hearts healed, I think 200k hearts healed is too much.
     
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  11. Northernlreland

    Northernlreland Active Member

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    Well 200k may be a little high, but 100-125k is certainly not. Considering this is an achievement indivuals will aim to complete, then gaining hearts healed will be much faster.
    • Playtime: 1d 12h 16m 4s
    • HP Restored: 29408
    Here is an example from my stats. I have played medic for 1d 12h 16m 4s, and have gained 29408 hearts restored.
    To put that into perspective that is 19605 hearts healed per day playtime. Keep in mind, when I played medic for this duration of time I was not trying to restore, or go for "Hearts Healed".
    I personally believe 100k-125k Is totally reasonable, especially for a medic main that is trying to achieve this achievement.
    if I tried to go for hearts healed during my duration of playtime on medic, I could of easily got 25-30k hearts healed per day playtime, or even more than that.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 29, 2019
  12. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Active Member

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    24 hours is a long time, people don't/can't play for a whole 24 hours at a time, most people usually play for a couple per day - takes a long time to get a day's worth of play time
     
  13. Cardonation

    Cardonation CTF JMOD | Elf

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    Making a suggestion for the community doesn't automatically qualify anyone for receiving special treatment in terms of rewards.
     
  14. Northernlreland

    Northernlreland Active Member

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    Agreed, personally If I were a medic main I would be slightly happy my achievement would take longer to complete, however that's just me.
     
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  15. Ninsanity

    Ninsanity Yoshi Legend and Medic Main

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    Agreed, and 100k hearts healed is going to take a long time, even for players like pudgy or lara who are focusing purely on healing to get the achievement.
     
  16. Cardonation

    Cardonation CTF JMOD | Elf

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    This change was implemented, thanks for the suggestion!
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