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The revive of Raid

Discussion in 'Raid' started by Jmby, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. Jmby

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    Hey Raiders!

    I think i am one of the players, who wants Raid to be revived and get more active again. I feel like Staff is doing their job the best they can and is doing difference we all can't see. I have talked with many mods and get friends with some of them. They have told me that they tried advertisement and marketing the server. It made some kind of result but not that good.

    I think personally that the problem is that, we players, who play there daily, a lot and see everything happening. We should be the ones creating and saying out loud the ideas! So, crying and blaming staff is not the way for it.

    I have couple ideas to get more new players to stay and generally reviving the server Brawl Raid.

    So, first of all we all need to be more nice and friendly to new players and help them out, when they are joining to the server. We have to help them out and treat them as players who could some day be your teammates. Personally when i started Brawl, early December 2019 my welcome to the server was pretty rude and i think no one even said Welcome! to me.

    We do need more events, in my opinion we need more king of the hills. More iron, more regular diamond ones. There just has to be more of them, because what i can see is that when there is koth, there is a lot people online on the server, and if there is more people online, more people joins to the server, it is logical. So i think that even iron koths would bring more players to the server.

    What about the rewards, if there koths more often?
    I think the rewards could be different in different koths. In iron koths rewards could be lower than in no restriciton koths where u can use protection 4.

    I think that we just need more koths cause thats whats funny and brings people to play. I personally enjoy koths and end events, even tough end event is kind of weird to me at this time.

    Post your ideas below and everyone can share their ideas with everyone!

    This is the way getting Raid alive again!
     
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  2. Twhat

    Twhat Active Member

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    The thing is that staffs don't listen community that they still have
     
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  3. steank

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    I don’t that you’re the best person to be trying to revive raid and to be telling other players to be nice... if we ACTUALLY want raid to be a thriving place, we need advertising. The lack of a map 7 trailer on brawl’s YouTube channel is clear evidence of this. If you look at brawls(much inferior) counterpart, mcteams, they were able to grab over 150 players for their launch. For the start of map 7, only 30. Mcteams doesn’t even have the greatest mechanics, and it lacks polish. I consider raid better than mcteams. HOWEVER, mcteams managed to get multiple creators to stream and make content on mcteams, which thus spread the word and attracted a massive quantity of players. I personally think that is the problem with brawl in it’s current state. We’re not doing enough to attract new players, and people are finding raid almost solely from word of tongue and playing it when they were younger. That’s why I don’t think that being nice to every single new player will help in the long run. Though this might attract a couple new players, it’s not going to help as much as other methods such as advertising. Brawl staff, I really want to help make raid be alive. I don’t know what you guys are doing to change it, but we really need some good advertising in order for brawl to be alive.
     
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  4. Prouddyyy

    Prouddyyy Assistant events manager

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    As I was the one of the main people working on getting Brawl’s player count up during the Summer, I will give the view from the staff side of our attempts to revive Brawl’s player count etc.

    Back somewhere around the summer when map 6 was announced, there was a trailer made, we paid a few smaller youtubers to reupload this trailer.
    This clearly didn’t work (much) and I personally think there are a few reasons for that.

    If I remember correctly the launch of map 6 didn’t go as planned, lag, taking to long for the new to actually go live, (correct me if I’m wrong but I think this was at map 6)

    Not only that was the trailer quite good looking etc. Very well made by I think joy, again, correct me if I’m wrong. But looking back at the trailer it doesn’t actually full on tell you what the game is about all that well. After someone would watch that video I could imagine that he still wouldn’t have a clue what certain stuff meant.

    The youtubers we contacted were too small, I was the one that contacted these youtubers so this was my fault, but the problem was I couldn’t get any somewhat big youtuber to mail me back or message me back where ever I would attempt to contact them, I sent about 40 e-mails to different youtubers and streamers, 15 messages on twitter, tried contacting through Discord, all with bad luck. So Idk what youtubers mcteams had contacted but it would be interesting to see if we can get in contact with those youtubers.

    What currently is done regarding advertising I don’t know (as I’m obviously not staff any longer).
    But I must say back in Summer we spent a ton of time trying to contact youtubers/streamers and trying all sorts of advertising methods.

    IF I get back to the staff team, I’d like to make one of my goals, if possible, and if I’m allowed to do so again, to work on advertising again.
     
  5. Jmby

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    Its right Raid needs contect creator based advertising but thats not the only thing, even tough i suggest Staff and Chickenputty use more money for content creator based marketing. That is what works.
     
  6. PingWoo

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    bruh, another one of these "revive" post again
     
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  7. Jmby

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    Bruh momento!
     
  8. SoCool21

    SoCool21 7 Year McPvPer

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    As Prouddyyy said, we have tried to reach out to streamers and content creators to make content on Brawl, but with very little success. Everyone we contacted either did not want to do it, charged more than we can afford, or their content did not make any noticeable difference to our playercounts.

    Do you know who McTeams had creating content on their servers? We are more than happy to get more advertisement, but our previous attempts have been unsuccessful.
     
  9. Jmby

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    You can easily find people who made videos before McTeams opened just by writing mc teams release or mc teams open and set the time to newest firtst.

    But one who made tutorial of McTeams and how it works was Br0 on YT.

     
  10. steank

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    I think a lot of McTeam's advertisement was done through word of tongue. I first heard that mcteams was coming back just from a video on my recomended feed on youtube titled "McTeams is coming back". I think raid has been around for a long time and it's basically just "raid" so maybe we could try to promote the fact raid is McPvP. If we convinced people that raid was McPvP and that it was "coming back" in a sense, that might attract new players. McPvP was much more popular than mcteams, in my opinion, and the word of it coming back would be incredibly delightful to a large playerbase. I know that some of them might be turned off by the fact brawl is 1.8, but we can work around that. Maybe focus on bringing back the original feel of mcpvp, and start branding raid AS mcpvp. I've talked a lot about this on the raid community discord with many other people, and they all offered up similar ideas to mine. I think that maybe a rebranding of mcpvp with a trailer advertising it as such COULD in theory attract a lot of players.
    EDIT: after doing some short research, there might've been more than just word of tongue. You'd probably have to talk to some of the people running mcteams to get more info
     
  11. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n BRAWL GET SOME ADVERTISMENT PLZ

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    Not to be a hater towards Br0 but his tutorial was horrible, one of the worst ones I have seen. He's not a Raid/Teams player, hes an hcf player and made everyone thinking that it was some HCF **** or something.
     
  12. Champloo

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    Not going to happen tbh
     
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  13. Twhat

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    I think that If youtuber likes to play server he doesnt want so much money. So in my opinion you should try to get answers to question why do they not want to play your servers.
     
  14. Prouddyyy

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    Since playing on a bigger server is more attractive for a youtuber as well, more players means more recognition because of his Youtuber rank which would lead to him receiving more subscribers and views.

    We're most certainly not one of the biggest servers there is, and most YouTubers won't be looking for servers like ours as you don't just find them that easily and most of the game modes we have aren't exactly straight forward and very easy to learn.

    Also other big servers and stuff just attract more viewers for the YouTuber, so hence why they'd rather prefer to play on a bigger server.
     
  15. Jmby

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    I agree with this, it is a problem that YouTubers doesn't really find it useful or fun to them play or make videos from server where is approximately 10 people online. McTeams was a good place to make videos since there was active pvp, 1v1's going on, raiding and tracking. Since pretty much no one plays Raid, you can't really track anyone, and there is any pvp at all anymore. I think we should not focus on getting NEW players to the server, but focus on the players who plays servers like Raid, also mcteams players.

    I think a good idea would be making actively Youtube videos, any kind of. That brings at least some viewers from Youtube and can even reach the original players or mcteams players who miss Soup pvp team server and is looking one to play. I got this idea where anyone makes a video of tracking, pvp or raiding and Brawl posts it to their Youtube channel, because on Brawls youtube channel it reaches more people i think. Brawl should also be more active on Twitter and do for their social media visibility more.

    But the main idea from me is, to get more original Minecraft players to play not that NEW Minecraft starters. We need people who played McTeams and other that kind of servers, who will stay if they get intersted and not quit after one day just running in spawn.
     
  16. steank

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    In order to revive raid we need to look at what made people originally come to mcpvp 8 years ago. What made it special? What made it unique? Once we find out why those players originally came to mcpvp, we need to make changes that would make people feel like they were playing old mcpvp again. We need to make people feel the special feeling of playing mcpvp for the first time, seeing all the mechanics, and getting good because they have a genuine interest in the server. I feel like modern raid lacks something that mcpvp and even old survival pvp had. Maybe find the reasons that people originally came to brawl and mcpvp and make implement new mechanics that make raid have the same feel as the old days but also evolves it in a way that it's a cultivation of what mcpvp special.

    also fun drinking game is to take a shot every time I said mcpvp
     
  17. Jmby

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    You keep forgetting, it is not McPvP anymore. Brawl bought McPvP and made it Brawl, changed things, changed looks, changed everything, it is not McPvP, it is Brawl Raid.

    Even though i think better name than "Raid" for the server would be on point, making a new fresh start and gain a lot more players.

    Also the number of maps, it is already going Map 7. Everyone is just bored. Brawl should make a fresh start with new server name and good updates and marketing/advertising. When new people comes to the server and sees the text "Raid Map 7", they think that everyone has everything and it is not worth to start if the maps change so fast and they doesn't even know when is the map changing.

    I suggest a new fresh start after map 7, a lot of new updates and mechanic side improvements for the server "Raid".

    Something like Brawl Teams or Brawl Teams PvP, or Brawl Soup would be great names in my opinion. (Made those in my head in like minute or two when writing this)
     
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