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The condition of Raid.

Discussion in 'Raid' started by KadenLmao, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. KadenLmao

    KadenLmao Well-Known Member

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    Hey what's good. Haven't been on the forums for literal years I had to take a trip down memory lane and it was quite cringy indeed. But this is zeroelephant787/Strider_HD if anyone even remembers. I got back into Minecraft recently and wanted to play on Raid like the good old days. However one log on to the server and you can instantly tell it isn't how it used to be. First off the player count is very miniscule, there's barely any pvp and it just isn't how it used to be. I believe the map should reset very soon, and OG players like myself who know what Raid used to be should have a big part in changes. Not many people from map 2-4 are on anymore so I can understand why it is the way it is. Let me know your thoughts :smile:


    TL;DR: Raid is broken, and the OG community needs to help revive it to it's old status
     
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  2. 360mod

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    imo pretty ****ing useless post i have to say lmao. since og's are not coming back to revive it, this post is useless anyways. What i would like to see that new players or old players who come back, wouldnt team up with the most sad team (Team Breach) immediately only because there is that time a pleb talking nice to them and giving iron stuff.
     
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  3. steank

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    thank you addicental very cool
     
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  4. CoCaptainBlue

    CoCaptainBlue Raid Jmod | Team Manta

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    Why do you always use swear words? is it possible for you to have a conversation without them?

    Also, you need to stop taking every opportunity you get to flame team breach.
     
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  5. NinetyThree

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    we are not accepting anyone unless we 150% know we can trust, currently we will only be inviting iqn_ or dragonvator since they were with us last map.
     
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  6. Iqn_

    Iqn_ Well-Known Member

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    I still play:grinning:DDD

    Wb me :frowning:
     
  7. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n BRAWL GET SOME ADVERTISMENT PLZ

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    Map 2-4 ain't even OG
     
  8. Tuumai

    Tuumai Well-Known Member

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    I believe reset is not gonna help anymore, just straight up changing into survival pvp could help. Even seeing the Survival pvp name on the scoreboard makes me want to play more

    And the new recraft system is ass
     
  9. Iqn_

    Iqn_ Well-Known Member

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    We tryed suggesting this in discord to change its name to something better. Staff are thinking about jt i do believe
     
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  10. chickenputty

    chickenputty License & registration?

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    Communities that appeal to "OG" players do not do well as that player base has moved on. The "OG" Raid gamemode concept has existed for over 8 years and hasn't changed much. Nonetheless, 1.7 has existed for 7 years and hasn't changed at all. When you combine those two things, you get a stale game that everyone has already gotten tired of. The only appeal to come back is nostalgia that doesn't last more than 2-3 days. This is proven with the release of MCTeams which only appealed to the "OG" player base.

    Older:
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    Newer (continues the above data from 0 at -4d):
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    While they consistently drop players everyday, other communities are gaining because of the influx of people staying inside right now. Raid needs to be evolved and its clear. We've slowly introduced new concepts to it at Brawl which help it maintain a more consistent player base than doing nothing. You even saw some of our ideas stolen at MCTeams as a result.

    We should continue to evolve the gamemode to appeal to the new player base. This will make the gamemode thrive as it did in the past, with the same fun as before.
     
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  11. CalledRainer

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    I agree with all you said just 1 Question: Why has Brawl in the past 6 years never tried/managed to properly "promote" Raid/SurvivalPvP? Most of the players on McTeams dont even know that Brawls Raid exists. They have never had the chance to try brawls raid and i am sure that quite a few would be happy if they found it and like it.

    Why not make a rank giveaway for the most invites to the Raid discord? All of the mcteams Players would probably get a pm with an invitelink of some raid Player at 0 cost for brawl?

    Why not upload high Quality Trailers on the mcpvp channel and give a rank to the Person with the most views on his reupload? 0 cost for brawl

    Why not announce the map reset 2 or 3 weeks before it happens instead of a half week so there is time to spread the word? Why is every map reset such a chaos just organise it better. 0 cost for brawl

    I expect a response as a player who has played every map without quitting in between since SurvialPvP probably by far more than 2 weeks of playtime on each of those Maps and as a Person who has probably already donated 4-500$ to your Server i think thats the least you can do for me.

    Edit: Also why are the Map resets Always at complete random times like 11th January? If you want to get as many Players as possible to start into the map make a "Summer, Christmas and Easter" map

    Yeah lmao no answer of any of the responsibles. As Always. As expected. As uninsightful as ever
     
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  12. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Haha MCTeams shut down like 12 times as well, I feel horrible for the people who bought lifetime ranks for that crap xd
     
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  13. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n BRAWL GET SOME ADVERTISMENT PLZ

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    People paid like 50$ for 2k gold and some more random **** xd
     
  14. chickenputty

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    You make it sound easy. We've tried with trailers on YouTube, posts on the 200k Facebook group, announcements on Discords, and we've tried to pay people to play - all who ignore or aren't interested. No one is recording normal Minecraft multiplayer anymore, promoting servers, unless they own them. They only make videos suited towards trends or modded content.

    We will be doing this. It hasn't been something we wanted to do until recently due to spam concerns. I knew people did this because of the endless faction servers that do it, so I guess we'll join them.

    We have in the past and will continue in the future. As we are paying for the trailers to be made, it isn't exactly 0 cost.

    We always announce 1 week before hand. If we announce too early, it will just hurt the current player base as no one will want to play.

    They will now happen every 3 months which matches up with the seasons. We failed to consistently do this in the past and its something we are correcting.

    Chill
     
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  15. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    I agreed with most of what you said, except for this bit at the start.

    There's a lot of content creators for Soup gamemodes out there (I linked your staff members to a few of them), it's not the case that they only go for trends and modded content.

    The issue lies, honestly (and this isn't just my view, by the way - it's shared by a few HG content creators who've tried out Brawl and Raid/KitBrawl), in Brawl's PvP, and the fact that most Soup players (who live in the EU) are stuck with dealing with very bad connections most of the time which makes Raid unfun. Take me for instance - I'm the first to admit I'm not a good Raid player anymore, mainly because, on Brawl, I can't combo *anyone* - the KB just makes no sense thanks to a combination of 1.8 and high ping. Same goes for souping, which is something I am pretty good at (I don't think anyone else has done the Frenzy Damager yet, and please add a harder one), but on Brawl, souping feels downright awful. I think these correctable issues are some of the things holding Brawl's ability to appeal to content creators back (before someone says "how are you going to give EU players good ping are you a hocus-pocus wizard" - many servers have EU/US proxies, giving most people good connections despite distances, I know a few pot servers that have this down pat. Even if this isn't an option, anyone here remember SimpleHG? They had an EU-only host and yet US players said they felt like they had 50 ms due to the PvP system. I think it's worth mentioning here).

    Just my salt, and @CalledRainer, please chill xd
     
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    I'll try to get us a EU proxy, I agree.
     
  17. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Good stuff, this would be an improvement.

    Also, not to be xGhale the annoying last HG player around, but I recommend (genuinely) testing out HG's souping and PvP plugin. They felt wayyy smoother than Raid's/KitBrawl's did.
     
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    There is zero difference in any soup plugins, trust me.
     
  19. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Really? I hardly ever had the issues I have on Raid with HG's souping xd
     
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  20. TheMel0n

    TheMel0n BRAWL GET SOME ADVERTISMENT PLZ

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    Munchy I got 50ms there and it’s US

    Hg really has better souppvp and tbh other servers have way better pvp plugins or whatever, I prefer some disgusting 1.7 HCF servers more than brawl pvp wise.
     
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