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How I was banned / The State of the Staff Team

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by LeUniCow, May 18, 2020.

  1. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    What is this person's alternative?

    I'm going to be honest here, all the information in this post about ghost clients and their detection on Brawl should be reason enough to unban this guy and anyone else in a similar situation. Here you are literally admitting that you do not know if people who presumably use ghost clients are actually using them or not, yet this dude is still banned. You cannot prove this without an intrusive anti-cheat software, and Brawl most definitely does not have that. If a ghost client is made to very effectively imitate an actual good player, then why is anyone at all claiming to be able to "prove" that another person is using a ghost client? Literally nobody should be banned for "ghost clients" by merely reviewing a clip... ghost clients are inherently designed to look like a legit player with an unusual playstyle. You are literally banning people for being legit LOL

    "Ghost clients" should never be bannable unless there is an overwhelming amount of common sense evidence that effectively (but not actually!) proves the person is cheating, and in this dude's case it's pretty obvious that this criteria hasn't been met.

    100% this; how this Cow guy has been treated by Brawl's ban system as a whole is actually sad

    From an outsider's perspective, it is ungodly obvious that whoever were the staff in charge of this ban made up their minds first and began to basically justify the ban to themselves rather than being presented with evidence and then making up their minds later; serious witch hunt vibes in this thread and I know barely anything about CTF and its community.

    In a word, this is unacceptable; in a few, this situation is reason enough to thoroughly reconsider the foundation on which the Brawl ban system stands.
     
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  2. Bootyism

    Bootyism Well-Known Member

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    The WarZ community supports you. #FreeCow

    I agree with you 100% the staff are ****ing terrible when it comes to this stuff and I’m disappointed the way they handled your ban.. This wouldn’t have even happened if Brawl added a SS protocol but according to them it “invades” privacy... like what? Are you hiding porn or credit card numbers or passwords in your .minecraft file? Staff are very biased and I dislike the way a lot of them do things.. not just in your CTF community but as well in our WarZ community.
     
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  5. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Well-Known Member

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    But in this case @Raging_ , the evidence is completely insufficient, can't possibly think of any grudges that could influence your thinking on this though? :thinking:

    Just gonna put this here as a reminder of who banned me.
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    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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  7. LeUniCow

    LeUniCow Well-Known Member

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    They're talking about Avetis, who at the time I thought was cheating. The similarity between our 2 bans is that there was no where near enough evidence to ban for aim assist
     
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  8. Raging_

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    surely you arent talking about the ban that you and your goons failed to give me oh so miserably by putting in place a dumb rule made specifically for me, which may i mention, did not have any evidence to support?

    honestly i'm not going to argue with you and say that the staff team is perfect and your ban was completely wrong. what i will say is that the staff is doing their best at what they are told to do, which is gather evidence for a ban and in your wise words "act on it." while the method may be flawed in someways, there arent many other good ways to ban people without an amazing anti cheat or adding screensharing. adding screensharing isnt going to 100% guarantee that you arent cheating. hiding hacks is quite simple and some staff cannot find it. ive always been advocating for the higher ups to implement screensharing, but staff might not necessarily find the hacks in question. hiding cheats is quite simple, and if they dont find anything on your computer you can just start cheating or continue to cheat (meant you as general term). to the people saying gEt A bEtTeR aNtI-ChEaT!! it is quite hard to make a brand new anti cheat from scratch and can cost a LOT of money. as mentioned before in this thread, hypixel is literally offering a salary of up to 100k a YEAR for developing an anti cheat. sure aim assist bans are dumb and instead they should have banned for something like reach, the situation doesnt change that there are many instances of you doing sketchy things that people may not have recorded. regardless of what many others are saying, i think the staff did a good job of handling the situation given the tools that they had. if you werent banned, people would have complained about the staff and since you've gotten banned people have compained about the staff, there really doesnt seem like theres a win-win situation. you should probably take this time from being banned on ctf to do literally ANYTHING else.

    side note: to those who may say that they should get BAC or have players use lunar client, both of these clients can still have hacks injected into them. badlion client can fully have vape in it, and you can use an autoclicker on lunar client

    that is all thank u for reading
     
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  9. LeUniCow

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    I agree adding SS won't 100% solve anything, but the staff would have a greater chance of finding a cheater than what they have now.

    If the staff had banned me for literally any blatant hack that the videos supposedly show, it'd have been better for me, cus then they wouldn't have had to ban all my accounts. But then again, if the staff team banned me for like Kill Aura, they'd look like a laughing stock, which is why i get they didn't do it. However SoCool saying that 'aim assist' can get the hits of ForceField is just daft - does he just not want to say there's a blatant hack? I don't get it.

    There's never a win-win situation for the staff team, it's what they sign up for (regardless of whether they can acknowledge that at the time). But I have to disagree with you on how the staff handled this, even other staff members are saying to me that what he did was weird.
    I think I probably had more people in support of me before I was banned, then after being banned a bunch of people just assumed the staff were correct (i'm talking even before i made this post).


    (yes i am taking the time to do/play other things, but CTF was my way of procrastinating from doing work, and now I actually have to do the work. This is not good.)
     
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  10. _SnowyStorm_

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    What's a ghost client?
     
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