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Idea Ninja eggspam

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Cypridiot7, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. Cypridiot7

    Cypridiot7 Member

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    Ninja eggspam is pretty annoying since it can practically immobilize you when you try to get of certain flagrooms and overall it gives the defence a big advantage. In comp it would prevent the use of tactical fouls, but I'm not aware whether that's a major problem.

    My suggestion would be to make it like chemist's mana pool, so that ninjas can use max 3 consecutive eggs. Similar changes (and the exact same change) have been suggested several times, and I'm sure a lot of you would agree that this needs a change but nothing has been done about it.


    Same suggestion:
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/74341/

    Egg cooldown like mage's damage spell:
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/73713/

    Max 5 eggs that regenerate like medic webs:
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/73587/

    Other mentions/ideas:
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/74379/
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/58343/
     
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  2. Paddishly

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    Absolutely yes. Would also remove the need to monitor eggspam in competitive. +1
     
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    Hey Cypridiot7,
    I totally agree with you on your idea, as I still get often eggspammed on free fridays:slight_frown:.
    How long would the cooldown be, when you used your 3 eggs? Would the mana bar allow you to throw more than 3 eggs only at a better timed rate?
     
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  7. Cypridiot7

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    Good question. I think the regen rate to be able to throw an egg should be 3-4s. If it's 3s, then the ninja can throw 4 consecutive eggs with an interval of 1s in between each of them, and then they would have to wait a full 3s until their 5th one. Or they could throw 2 with no interval, then wait 2s and throw another, then wait 1s to throw another and then they're mana would be fully depleted. Or in whatever interval combination, but in general they would be able to throw maximum 4 eggs in 3s.

    Three seconds may seem like it's not enough, but I think it makes it a harder for the ninja because they have to try to get the timing right to use 4 eggs efficiently and it also makes them more vulnerable. To tie this to Paddishly's point, I'm not sure whether the use of 4 eggs over 3s results in a warning but I definitely think even a regen rate of 3s would severely reduce ninja's ability to halt people with eggspam so that it wouldn't have to be monitored.
     
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    This wouldn’t really fix much. You’d need a mana system split into 2 imo. Regenerates 1/2 every 3s and every egg thrown would lose 1/2 This would mean That a ninja could max throw 2 eggs at a time and wait 3s before throwing another. This would be a lot cleaner and better.
     
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  9. Cypridiot7

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    Tbh I think that would be a little too much (trying to orient it around mmr where bursts of max 3 are allowed), but it's hard to say without having done any tests yet. Maybe with 3 eggs it might be more balanced if the regen rate were >4s for one egg or 1/3 of the bar to make it easy to throw 3 eggs but not 4, but like I said I'm not certain.
     
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    do this to archer too. 1 arrow every 1 second, just enough for a fully charged shot after each cool down.
     
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    Weird little idea: Make it so pearling also takes away mana from the same bar, this way ninja's will have to look out not to be careless when facing an enemy.
     
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